Wednesday, October 28, 2009

An Atheist Talks About Death to His Children- Pt.1





Inspired by a post and subsequent discussion here.

When my kids were growing up, we had this little thing we’d do. Not really a ritual, though we did it almost every night. While I cooked dinner, they’d sit in the kitchen with me, and we’d talk. And since my culinary preparations tended toward the elaborate as often as not, these conversations would sometimes stretch out over 2, 3 hours (except on wonton and eggroll nights, when it took longer and I made them help). This tradition started around the ages of 5 and 2, respectively, and continued on and off for a number of years. We talked about science, philosophy, religion...even sex. And while I tried my best not to talk over their heads (some might feel that conversations regarding quantum physics and star formation are categorically above a young child’s head, but I disagree most vehemently), I also made sure not to dumb it down too much. There’s a lot to be said for encouraging intellectual struggle, I think. The thickest eggshells make the strongest chicks, or so I’m told. On the other hand, maybe that’s just some more bullshit folk wisdom, and it actually kills them. LOL! In that case, perhaps my kids are fortunate to have come through their childhood relatively unscathed from having knowledge jammed down their throats, and they’re not TOO mad at me for it, anyway!

One of the things we talked about was death. A pretty natural subject to discuss, what with it being the universal source of most of our fears and all. Yet because of that, we really don’t talk about it much, do we? But death confronts all of us sooner or later, whether we like it or not. Not only is it the primary source of our fears, it’s also the main impetus behind the many world mythologies designed to allay those fears. Kids think about death. Perhaps more than adults, especially if they’ve not been so indoctrinated in religion’s stunted apologues that they’ve learned to lock the questions away inside themselves.

Anyway, over the course of raising two daughters, there’ve been plenty of conversations along these lines. In response to Spanish Inquisitor’s post, I thought I’d try to distill those discussions down to 2 or 3 main ideas, as a way of answering the question, ’How do you tell your kids about death?”

The first part of my answer has to do with the subject of personhood. When we think about ourselves, about what we are at the very essence of our existence, we generally see ourselves as invisible minds inhabiting bodies made of flesh, and bone, and blood. All of us see things this way from an intuitive level- even atheists. We speak of our body parts as if we own them, albeit also inhabiting them in some way. ‘I’ instruct ‘my hand’ to perform this or that function, and hopefully it obeys. Our bodies are objects to be manipulated from inside, in much the same way that we drive a car, or ride a bike. ‘We’ are the agents giving the orders, housed inside our biological vehicles. This is what’s generally known as ‘dualism’, the philosophy that mind exists separate from the body. Mind/body duality is still the principle belief of most of the people on the planet, and although not everybody believes in this anymore (materialistic atheists, for instance), everybody- and I mean EVERYBODY- still acts in the main as if it were so. Yes, mind/body dualism is most likely a delusion, and according to the strictest of naturalistic, scientific guidelines it is most certainly a delusion. But it is a delusion built into the very intuitional fabric of the abstract world inside our heads. The world which moves us, and gives us a sense of personal meaning beyond the strictly utilitarian functions of moment to moment existence. It’s the world of our aspirations. The world of our hopes, and fears. Curiously, it’s also a world which more than likely doesn’t exist. Is that scary? No worries, because there’s more. We don’t exist, either.

Here’s what science has to say on the whole matter. In the beginning...well, who knows? It’s still an open question. But shortly AFTER the beginning (and even the idea of a beginning isn’t quite right, but that’s not part of the subject matter of this post), zillions of teeny tiny particles began moving outward away from each other, becoming and expanding what’s generally known as space/time. At first, everything was so outrageously hot that they didn’t have anything to do with each other. But eventually, as things cooled down, some tiny bits got together with other tiny bits to form somewhat less tiny bits, and things grew from there. Long story short, you eventually got space dust, and stars, and galaxies, and planets, and all the stuff on those planets, including us (this is the extremely abbreviated version, naturally). But remember, at the most basic level everything is still just these very teeny tiny bits clumped together into various patterns, replicating ithemselves according to relatively simple ‘rules’ which are really nothing more than expressions of intrinsic properties (think ‘round pegs fit into round holes’). This includes the stuff that makes up our brains, from which our minds ‘emerge’ as the natural property of the combined movements of all these teeny, tiny bits, moment to moment. In other words, you (and I’m using ‘you’ as synonymous with ‘mind’ here), are simply the end result of ever shifting pattern of matter in motion. In this sense, the ‘you’ who is reading this paragraph is not the same ‘you’ who read the last paragraph. And now you’re new again! And now, again! Whoops, there goes another one!

Here’s an example. Think of a tornado, moving across an open field. What is a tornado, really? Is it a living being, perhaps hunting down box kites and trailer parks for substance? Of course not. In fact, a tornado doesn’t exist at all according to this way of thinking. A tornado is simply the ever changing emergent property of the whole environment- air, temperature, and terrain, for the most part. It is an observable pattern, a particular expression of the flux of the world. Flowing through time. Changing its very substance each and every moment. Something rises up out of the churning maelstrom of sub-atomic existence. It SEEMS to take shape, SEEMINGLY moving across the landscape, when in fact it is one loosely defined expression of EVERYTHING as described in one particular locality. Before you know it, the tornado is gone as if it never existed. BECAUSE it never existed! That is, it never existed as an isolated entity moving across a plain of ‘otherness’. The tornado was simply something the universe did for a while. And that’s what we are.

None of us will ever die, because none of us have ever lived. That is to say, there’s no real demarcation between ‘death’ and ‘life’; other than a delusional one, that is. When we are happy, that’s the universe being happy. Or, more technically put, happiness is reflective of a particular biological/chemical incident. And what is a biological incident? Nothing more that the randomly shifting patterns of teeny tiny bits, all the way down to as far as those tiny bits can be broken down to, I guess. Of course, when I say random, I don’t mean to say that all hypothetical possibilities are present at every place at every possible moment. Coin tosses are random, but you’ll only ever get either heads or tails, with the extremely rare edge-landing thrown in. This is why the creationist’s argument about the impossibility of tornadoes sweeping through junkyards to produce 747s is invalid. It’s more like 1s stick to 3s, and 2s stick to 4s, and 2/4 combinations stick to 8s, while 1/3 combinations stick to 16s, and on up from there. This is more or less how complexity builds up, given the billions of years the universe has existed.

Whoops! Got sidetracked there...where were we? Ah yes! Death. There is not death, nor life for that matter. The whole of existence shifts from one state to the next, moment by moment by moment. Patterns emerge. Patterns recede. Everything is nothing more than shapes in clouds. Including us.

Of course, part of the emergent property of this thing we call human life is the generation of illusion. Like the illusion that we are something else than what we really are. We’ll never get away from that altogether-it’s built in. I go back over what I’ve written here, and recognize where the illusion is built right into the very structure of language itself. It’s impossible to talk about it in a thoroughly logical way, though I think I’ve tried my best. Then again, who am I?

Didn’t we already go through all that?

P.S. Note to self: new nickname for my kids-dustdevils. Seems appropriate, yes?

8 comments:

  1. Well done!

    When I ever get into a discussion with the Christian du Jour, and the subject of the afterlife comes up (and especially their insistence that there HAS to be some sort of continuing existence for our "souls"), I always ask them to imagine with me.

    Since their concept of soul (in my opinion) comes from a human inability to "imagine" a complete cessation of consciousness after bodily death, I ask them to "imagine" going in the other direction-to imagine what their awareness might have been aware of ten years before their earthly bodies were conceived. Then I aver that this is where we are all destined to end up: in the utter nothingness we all (don't) experience prior to birth. Why this notion should bother anyone is beyond my understanding, but then I'm an atheist. I have no need to be accepted by a god that doesn't exist.

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  2. Hiya, GHE! I concur, and in fact went in the same direction you're going here, in pt2 of this series.

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  3. Hey, Jim. I meant to come over earlier and check out what you wrote since your comment on my blog.(Actually, I just stopped in for a breather, a little surcease from the Gidmeister.) Finally made it.

    I like this. You're really saying that the whole concept of "life" (and death being the absence thereof) is really just an arbitrary concept we subjectively ascribe to the current pattern the universe has created on this planet. Because that pattern has created self consciousness, we happen to be in a position to name it.

    Imagine if there was such a life that didn't have that ability, that existed without the life form being conscious of itself? Oh wait, that describes just about every other life form on the planet. D'uh.

    On to part deuce.

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  4. S.I.: Yup, you've pretty much nailed it there. Actually, there are a lot of seeming boundaries in nature which, if we look closely enough, have very fuzzy edges. If theists, especially the creationist sort, could understand this, they'd realize their challenges regarding life/non-life, transitional forms, species differentiation, and irreducible complexity are either specious and/or utterly beside the point.

    It seems to me that human consciousness-that is, self consciousness- is simply complex enough to have different facets reflecting back and forth in a way that somehow spins a sense of self out of whole cloth. I'm also convinced that the difference between our kind of consciousness and the rest of the animal world is of a quantitative nature, and not qualitative. I might try to go into more of this stuff soon, as time and inspiration allow. Thanks for dropping by.

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  5. There is no such thing as you
    It doesn't matter what you do
    The more you try to qualify
    The more it all will pass you by

    Some people like to make life a little tougher than it is.
    - Cake,
    Tougher Than It Is

    Funny that an antinatalist should put so much into raising his kids well. :) My little sister found out I smoke when she was five, and she called me out on it at the dinner table. We had a very nice conversation that wound its way around to a whole load of interesting topics.

    Anyway, I wanted to let you know that the authoritarian dick-waving comment wasn't directed at you, so I hope there are no hard feelings. I actually mean by that phrase to indicate only the cults of Authority, with a capital A - you line up behind the Authority, you put your head the fuck down, and prosperity ensues; otherwise, everything bad that happens is because of those fuckers who didn't play follow the leader. At the time, it was Gideon's silly disgust with the way that some people choose to stick it in the naughty place that made me think of the metaphor: "Naughty, naughty," I imagined him saying, wagging a golden penis idol disapprovingly. That's what I meant when I said it, and your actually having a penis has nothing at all to do with it. Sorry for the misunderstanding!

    (P.S. - I'm starting to think I made a mistake by feeding the trolls this time. Ugh. There seems no victory to be had with them.)

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  6. D:

    Nah! I just can't resist smart-ass wordplay. One of my many faults. You're one of the bright spots around here. Smart as a whip!

    Philanthropic antinatalism is born out of empathy, and a realization of benefits vs. cost, along with some of what turns out to be really, really obvious risk assessment on the side.

    Most of my naturalistic philosophy springs from, or at least was given wings, by the late so-called 'popularist' philosopher Alan Watts. And I appreciate the idea of 'seeing into things directly'. I loved your comment about self-exploration via introspection, btw. Along with a little outrospection, it suits me just fine!

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  7. Oh, OK! As long as we're still friends, then it's all good (I did laugh before I worried that you'd taken it the wrong way - maternalistic vagina barking sounds like about the best fun ever!). Seems like that other lot isn't interested in making friends, or making the world a better place. Oh, well. Fuck 'em if they can't take a joke.

    It's kind of frustrating, though. I did have the good fortune that my religious upbringing mostly emphasized "Jesus meek and merciful," so I get a bit naive sometimes trying to appeal to believers on those terms when it seems like they'd much rather wave their Authorities around and say things like "tut, tut" whenever someone looks at 'em cross-eyed. Blargh. Whatever. I guess that's what I get for trying to make friends with the other side. Reminds me of the opening lines to Faust:
    I have studied philosophy
    Jurisprudence, and medicine, too
    And, worst of all, theology
    With keen endeavor, through and through
    Yet still I am, for all my lore
    The wretched fool I was before

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  8. D:

    I'm all about making friends, though I seem to make some enemies along the way. Keeping the whole discussion within the confines of my blogging ideals, I DETEST bad faith argumentation, as well as all trolling and/or sockpuppetry. Like I said, learning curves.

    Love the Faust thing.

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